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I Spoke to Arne Duncan About School Reform. Here Are 5 Takeaways

We cannot dust off old ideas that were bipartisan 10 or 20 years ago
By Rick Hess 鈥 October 11, 2023 6 min read
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Last week, at the American Enterprise Institute, former Secretary of Education Arne Duncan and I sat down to talk about the future of school reform with The New York Times鈥 Erica Green (you can see the video ). Across town, at exactly the same time, Rep. Matt Gaetz and his gang of very online arsonists were toppling the House Speaker out of pique.

Against that backdrop, our conversation felt civilized, even convivial. That鈥檚 funny both because so much educational debate of late has felt far from that and because, as longtime readers may recall, I had a fairly contentious relationship with Arne and his team during Obama-era fights over stuff like Race to the Top, teacher evaluation, Title IX guidance, and the Common Core.

Well, last week, we covered a lot of ground: Testing. Parents. 鈥淏ook bans.鈥 Leadership. Chronic absenteeism. And more. I don鈥檛 want to rehash the whole thing here (watch it if you鈥檙e curious or read a summary ). But as I reflected on the conversation and heard reactions to it, there are five thoughts I thought were worth sharing.

First, as I鈥檝e found in my book with Pedro Noguera and my 鈥淪traight Talk鈥 exchanges here at Ed Week with Jal Mehta, it鈥檚 a lot easier to find significant points of principled agreement than you might think. The clickbait, fiery denunciations, and breathless coverage frequently make it sound like no one can agree on anything. That鈥檚 not my experience. As I鈥檝e often said, I鈥檝e found that it鈥檚 just not that hard for me to get to 50 percent or 60 percent agreement even with someone who sees things real differently, if we鈥檙e willing to sit down and get clear about the particulars. That means that there鈥檚 40 percent or 50 percent we won鈥檛 agree on, but that鈥檚 life鈥攁nd if we whittle our arguments down to human size, they can feel less daunting and more manageable.

Second, Duncan lamented the sense that we鈥檙e adrift and articulated a vision of leadership focused on a set of broadly shared goals. This seemed to land with people. Arne urged a bipartisan focus on something like early-childhood access, 3rd grade reading score, graduation rates, and some gauge of postsecondary completion鈥攚ith the understanding that there will be healthy disagreement on how to make these things happen. The degree to which this notion seemed to resonate with viewers had me pondering how much of a full circle we鈥檝e traveled, given that the Clinton-Bush-Obama school reform era really took off when the nation鈥檚 governors (including a guy named Bill Clinton) and the first President Bush embraced a set of national goals at their historic Charlottesville meeting more than three decades ago.

Third, the conversation reminded me just how partial or tentative the conversation can be when it comes to parents. For instance, the question of 鈥渂ook bans鈥 came up. This is an issue that鈥檚 often presented as a caricature, inevitably leading to a partisan dead end. When the reality is framed more fully and precisely, though, asking why parents might be concerned about graphic sexual imagery in elementary school libraries (for instance) as well as which parental complaints are unjustified or excessive, it鈥檚 a lot easier to find common ground. Similarly, when it comes to chronic absenteeism and youth well-being, it turns out there鈥檚 a fair bit of agreement that schools must do their part, but parents also need to get kids off their phones, in bed at a reasonable hour, and to school on time.

Fourth, like it or not, I was reminded yet again that would-be school 鈥渞eformers鈥 can鈥檛 just go back to the policy agenda that they spent so much time building and buffing during the Bush-Obama years. This is true even for those who cherished No Child Left Behind, Race to the Top, and the Common Core. Why? Well, I hate to break it to anyone who really loved those programs, but they weren鈥檛 some elegantly designed, Platonic ideal of 鈥渞eform.鈥 Rather, they were compromise-laden attempts designed with a careful eye to the educational priorities, technological tools, and political realities of the moment. That means both that those reforms may be poorly suited to where we are today; they鈥檒l almost inevitably include features that may be outdated, not necessary, or counterproductive. And, of course, it鈥檚 a mistake to imagine we can dust off old ideas that were bipartisan 10 or 20 years ago and assume they鈥檒l be popular (or productive) in a very different environment. The future of school reform may look quite different from the past of school reform. And that鈥檚 OK.

Finally, watching Gaetz鈥檚 antics play out, and then seeing him soak up primetime cable time and campaign contributions as a result, is a reminder of how the rewards for performative behavior have been fundamentally corrupting across so much of American life (my colleague Yuval Levin has written elegantly about this). While there are plenty of toxic right-wing and left-wing performance artists in the education space, to my mind, those most guilty of abandoning their scruples for the cheap thrills of clickbait and culture war have been the stewards of once-austere establishment organizations who鈥檝e eschewed mature leadership and instead embraced the satisfaction of being part of the performative mob. They鈥檝e corrupted unifying institutions, hollowed out constructive places for Americans to work out principled disagreements, and burned the hard-won credibility that a long list of predecessors had carefully accumulated. Who do I have in mind?

In particular, I鈥檓 thinking of organizations like the National School Boards Association and the American Library Association, which have eschewed the chance to lead inclusively in favor of performative theatrics. During the pandemic, many parents were furious about how school districts approached reopening, masking, 鈥渁nti-racist鈥 education, and more. In response, a few parents behaved indefensibly, threatening district officials. But most were just vocal, angry, and active. Instead of distinguishing one from the other and working to honor both parent frustration and the need to police unacceptable behavior, the NSBA infamously asked the federal government to treat irate parents as 鈥渄omestic terrorists鈥濃攅ven though most of the examples flagged in its letter to the Biden administration any actual threat. More recently, the American Library Association has passed on the opportunity to help bridge the gap between parents troubled by what they consider pornographic images and text found in elementary and middle school materials and those reasonably concerned about censorious behavior. If any group is situated to provide measured guidelines and guardrails for reaching reasonable judgments about such materials, it should be the ALA. Instead of noting that library curation is something librarians do, and helping communities talk constructively about reasonable distinctions and age-appropriateness, the ALA has to those who seem determined to label even modest efforts to from elementary and middle school libraries as 鈥渂ook banning.鈥

Arne argued that we鈥檙e at a point where we need leadership from anyone who鈥檚 willing to provide it: Governors. Mayors. Educators. Parent leaders. National officials. That resonates. As Erica Green noted, we opened bars before we opened schools during the pandemic. Yep. As I鈥檓 prone to note, we鈥檝e just given K-12 over $200 billion in borrowed funds that our kids and grandkids will have to pay back, and it鈥檚 hard to find anyone who thinks we got our money鈥檚 worth. Our kids need the adults to step up, and we need more adults in the room. Let鈥檚 work on that. That just may be the way forward when it comes to the future of school reform.

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